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Higher ed IT isn’t just about technology—it’s about leadership, strategy, and navigating the unique challenges of institutional culture. And we’ve seen it all. Two retired Canadian Higher Ed CIOs—and CUCCIO CIO of the Year winners—Bo Wandschneider and Dana Sanderson—bring decades of experience tackling technology, governance, and innovation in Canadian universities. In Bytes of Experience: CIOs Unplugged, they cut through the noise to discuss real challenges, real solutions, and the realities of IT leadership. Expect deep insights, candid discussions, and plenty of humor—because IT isn’t always glamorous, but it’s always interesting. Whether you’re a seasoned pro or new to the field, join them for an unfiltered look at the digital evolution of higher ed IT.
Episodes

Mar 2, 2026
Mar 2, 2026
33 min
Hosts Dana Sanderson and Bo Wandschneider sit down with Gary Doucette, former CIO of Acadia University, to explore what happens when a long-time technology leader steps into a new role as an executive advisor focused on process management and institutional transformation.
Gary reflects on leaving the CIO seat, shedding the weight of cybersecurity, and learning to lead without a team — relying instead on influence, trust, and deep listening. The conversation digs into why entrenched processes persist, how culture shapes (and often blocks) improvement, and why frameworks like Lean and ITIL matter less as dogma and more as shared language.
They unpack the realities of remote work, leadership gaps in higher ed, and the importance of slowing down to engage before speeding up to execute. Gary shares practical approaches for building buy‑in, reducing friction, and helping institutions connect operations to strategy in ways that outlast any single project.
The episode closes with what success looks like in a three‑year advisory role, why process work naturally gravitates toward IT, and Gary’s advice for new leaders navigating change in complex environments.
Book Reference:
Your Brain at Work - Strategies for Overcoming Distraction, Regaining Focus, and Working Smarter All Day Long by David Rock
by W.K. Balzar

Feb 23, 2026
Feb 23, 2026
36 min
In this episode Richard Godsmark joins us to reflect on his career across Canadian colleges, Canadian universities, and now the Australian higher education system. He compares how governance, funding models, culture, and decision‑making differ across these environments, offering a rare cross‑border view of how higher ed systems actually function. From committee‑driven universities to policy‑driven colleges to Australia’s nationally unified model, Richard highlights how these structures shape leadership, pace of change, and the role of IT.
We also explore his shift from Deputy CIO to Strategic Advisor for Digital Innovation at Sheridan, where he focused on long‑term thinking, institutional differentiation, and revenue diversification. Richard shares lessons about influence without authority, the value of protected thinking time, and adapting to new tech stacks and national policies. His reflections offer grounded insights for anyone navigating change or leading digital strategy in higher education.
Books referenced:
After On - Rob Reid
Off to Be the Wizard - Scott Meyer
We are Legion (We are Bob) - Dennis E. Taylor
Robopocalypse - Daniel H. Wilson
Hustle and Float: Reclaim Your Creativity and Thrive in a World Obsessed with Work - Rahaf Harfoush

Feb 16, 2026
Feb 16, 2026
40 min
In this episode we explore the University of Guelph’s bold experiment in unifying library and IT leadership under one role — a model far more common internationally than in Canada. Mike Ridley, Chief Librarian Emeritus and former CIO, reflects on the decade he spent navigating this hybrid portfolio and the strategic intent behind it: elevating information as a core institutional asset, strengthening collaboration, and giving IT a meaningful voice at the senior table.
Ridley shares candid insights into the cultural dynamics between libraries and IT, the importance of not fully merging the organizations, and the critical role of strong delegated leadership in making the model work. He also discusses the national context, including how library‑sector collaboration helped inspire the formation of CUCCIO.
The conversation offers practical lessons for institutions considering similar models: focus on information rather than technology or collections, invest in leadership capacity at all levels, and recognize the deep cultural identities within both libraries and IT.
Book References:
Moby Dick, by H. Melville
The Idea of a University - by JH Newman

Feb 9, 2026
Feb 9, 2026
41 min
In this episode of Bytes of Experience, we sit down with Jason Oliver, CIO at Western University, to explore what it means to lead higher ed IT across borders. Jason shares his journey from the UK to Canada, reflecting on sector similarities, cultural surprises, and the critical role of community in shaping student experience. From navigating financial pressures to modernizing governance and uncovering institutional blind spots, Jason offers candid insights into his first year at Western — and why he sees it as a 10-year transformation. Whether you're in tech leadership or just curious about how universities adapt, this episode delivers thoughtful reflections and practical wisdom.

Feb 2, 2026
Feb 2, 2026
41 min
In this episode of Bytes of Experience, hosts Bo and Dana speak with Kevin Magee about how CIOs earn trust at the boardroom table, what boards want to see, and how CIOs and CISOs should coordinate their message.
Kevin shares practical steps—show up, frame IT as digital transformation, use clear risk metrics (like probability of material impact), and do pre-conversations with board champions—to move conversations from technical detail to strategic decision-making.
Book Reference:
Never Split the Difference - Chris Voss

Jan 26, 2026
Jan 26, 2026
32 min
Welcome to Bytes of Experience with Bo Wandschneider and Dana Sanderson. In this episode Alex Matos, Internal Auditor at the University of Toronto, shares his journey into higher‑ed audit and explains how auditors and CIOs can work together to enable institutional strategy while managing IT and cybersecurity risks.
The discussion covers board oversight and IT governance, the evolving role of internal audit as a trusted partner, the need for technical skills on boards and audit teams, national benchmarking initiatives, and practical advice for building trust and aligning priorities.
Book References:
Quiet Leadership - Winning Hearts and Minds - Carlo Ancelotti

Jan 19, 2026
Jan 19, 2026
34 min
Bo Wandschneider and Dana Sanderson sit down with Mark Humphries, the new CIO at the University of Alberta, to explore leadership during major institutional change. They cover governance models, project initiation, consolidation into university-wide services, and the practical challenges of app rationalization and infrastructure at scale.
Mark draws on his experience at multiple universities and the Royal College of Physicians to emphasize the human side of IT: building relationships, earning trust, listening first, and shaping culture to enable sustainable transformation.
Resources:
University of Alberta Technology With Purpose
University of Alberta - Continuous Administrative Service Improvement Program
Book references:

Jan 12, 2026
Jan 12, 2026
44 min
In this episode, Bo and Dana sit down with Marc Denoncourt to trace his path from campus CIO to board director — and why he pursued the Chartered Director designation. Marc explains how governance training reshaped his leadership approach, helping him frame technology as a business strategy, engage boards at the right altitude, and build trust through transparency and partnership.
The conversation digs into what boards really want to hear (strategy, finance, and risk), how CIOs can translate technical work into institutional outcomes, and why student‑focused digital services consistently capture board attention. Marc also shares cross‑sector lessons from aerospace, banking, and media, illustrating how technology becomes a competitive differentiator in every industry — including higher education.
Practical takeaways include treating cybersecurity as managed risk, using clear visuals to explain technical debt, elevating IT through dedicated board committees, and three actions for CIOs: be a business partner, lead cross‑institution efforts, and invest in governance training to strengthen board relationships and strategic influence.
🎧 Episodes released - Season 1 - Part 1
S01-E01 -Unfiltered CIOs: People, Power & Campus Tech - BETA
S01-E02 From Mainframes to the Cloud: Higher Ed IT Unfiltered - BETA
S01-E03 CIO Tightrope: Balancing Tech Strategy and Campus Culture - Part 1 - BETA
S01-E04 CIO Tightrope: When Innovation Meets Tradition: Navigating Cultural Conflict - Part 2 - BETA
S01-E05 Where IT Nightmares Become Leadership Legends—And Sometimes, Laughs. Part 1 - BETA
S01-E06 Where IT Nightmares Become Leadership Legends—And Sometimes, Laughs. Part 2 - BETA
S01-E07 - Guest Isaac Straley - The CISO Tightrope: Balancing Boards, CIOs, and Campus Culture
S01-E08 -Cutting Ourselves Short: IT Strategy and the Budget Crisis → Guest - Gayleen Gray, CTO, McMaster University
S01-E09 - Benchmarking for change: Uniforum and the University if Alberta Model Guest - Brian Stewart, CIO SFU (former Director Service Excellence Transformation UofA)
S01-E10 - IT Is Something You Do With People, Not To People → Guest Keith McWhirter, former Director of Experiential Partnerships & Programs, Smith School of Business, Queen’s University
S01-E11- How CUCCIO United Canada’s University CIOs: The Untold Story → Guest Lori McMullen, Founding Executive Director of CUCCIO
S01-E12- Beyond the Silo: Translating Tech into Transformation - CIO Meets COO → Guest Maroquine Aziz COO and Founder of TopFractionalExecs
S01-E13- Leading Culture, Not Just Controls: Cybersecurity in Higher Ed → Guest David Shipley CEO and Co Founder, Beauceron Security
S01-E14 - Stronger Together: A CanSSOC Conversation Guest Isaac Straley
S01-E15- Uniting Forces: How uOttawa Aligns IT for Impact Guest Martin Bernier, CIO University of Ottawa
S01-E16 Year in Review — Leadership, Trust, and the Human Side of Tech CO Hosts Dana Sanderson and Bo Wandschnieder
S01-E17- From Servers Under Desks to a National Strategy: The CIO’s Role in Shaping Canada’s Digital Research Future Guest Lori McMullen, Interim VP Operations & Strategy
S01-E18- - IT Leadership at the Board Table: Lessons from Marc Denoncourt, Retired CIO McGill University
S01-E19-The Human Side of Transformation: Mark Humphries on Listening, Culture, and Trust Guest Mark Humphries, CIO University of Alberta
S01-E20 When Auditors Meet CIOs: Building Trust in University IT Governance Guest Alex Matos, Executive Director of Internal Auditor University of Toronto
🎧 Episodes released - Season 1 - Part 2
S01-E21 - Beyond IT: How CIOs Win Influence in the Boardroom Guest Kevin Magee, Global Director Cybersecurity Startups @ Microsoft for StartUps , University Board Member Brock University and UPEI
S01-E22-Crossing Systems, Building Culture: Jason Oliver on Leading Higher Ed IT in Canada
Guest Jason Oliver - CIO Western University
S01-E23- When Libraries and IT Converge: A Decade of Leadership at the University of Guelph
Guest Mike Ridley
S01-E24-Leading Across Borders: Higher Ed IT Lessons
Guest Richard Godsmark
S01-E25- Process Is Strategy: Gary Doucette on Culture, Change, and Continuous Improvement
Guest Gary Doucette - Strategic Advisor, Acadia University
01-E26-People First: How Culture Transforms Healthcare
Guest Michele James
S01-E27 - Curiosity, Consciousness, and Culture Change in Higher Ed Guest Meghan Kirwin
S01-E28: Stronger Together: Shared Security Models and Global Cyber Partnerships Guest - Kevin Paul - Cybera
S01-E29-Leading with Inclusion: Nela Petkovic on Collaboration, Culture, and Cybersecurity Guest - Nela Petkovic CIO Wilfred Laurier University
S01-E30 -Growing IT Leaders: Inside Cuccio’s Leadership Development Program Guests - Bob Cook, CUCCIO LDP Program Leader; Gayleen Gray, AVP & CTO McMaster University
S01-E31-Leading with Heart and Strategy: Lessons from the Toughest Guest - Sandeep Sidhu , CIO Emily Carr University of Art and Design
S01-E32 - The Power of Human Connection: Why Leaders Can’t Ignore It Anymore Guest - Pete Bombaci, Genwell
S01-E33-Leading Across Campus Cultures: Michael Barr on Polytech, Non‑U15, and U15 Realities Guest - Michael Barr, CIO USask
S01-E34 - From the Court to the Core: Ray Darling on Leadership, Data, and Student Experience Guest - Ray Darling , Registrar University of Windsor
S01-E35- Leadership in Practice: Lessons from a CUCCIO LDP Graduate Guest - Darren Schell, CIO University of Lethbridge
🎧 Future Episodes
(Working titles)
National Cybersecurity Collaboration: Where We Are, What’s Working, and What’s Holding Us Back
Guest - Axel Schulz , CANARIE
Advocacy, Research Ecosystems, and the Future of Sovereign Compute
Guest - Jennifer Arbour, AWS
Please send us your ideas for future episodes:
feedback@BytesofExperience.ca

Bo Wandschneider - Co Host
Bo Wandschneider is a nationally respected leader in higher education IT, known for driving innovation, resilience, and strategic transformation. As the recently retired CIO of the University of Toronto, Bo led one of Canada’s largest higher ed IT organizations through pivotal change—including the rapid shift to virtual learning and remote operations during the COVID-19 pandemic. His leadership fostered agility, cohesion, and a deep culture of service during a time of disruption.
In 2024, Bo was named CUCCIO CIO of the Year, recognizing his outstanding contributions to the sector and his role in shaping the future of digital infrastructure in Canadian higher education.
Bo’s influence reaches across Canada through his work on cybersecurity initiatives like ORION ON-CHEC and CANARIE’s CanSSOC, where he was a founding member. He’s also held senior roles at Queen’s University and the University of Guelph, and is a trusted collaborator among CIOs nationwide—championing shared solutions and sector-wide progress.
Renowned for building high-performing teams and empowering others, Bo leads with a collaborative ethos and a commitment to cultural transformation. He creates environments where innovation thrives, people feel valued, and institutions evolve to meet the future. His work is rooted in partnership—connecting organizations to achieve more together than they could alone.

Dana Sanderson - Co Host
Dana Sanderson recently retired as Chief Information Officer at the University of Prince Edward Island (UPEI), where he spent over a decade leading transformative initiatives that modernized the university’s technology landscape. A UPEI alumnus with an MBA from the University of Ottawa, Dana spearheaded UPEI’s first enterprise-wide ERP implementation, overhauled campus network infrastructure, and championed digital solutions that enhanced the student experience and supported institutional sustainability. Earlier in his career, Dana worked for J.D. Irving, Limited in a number of IT leadership roles.
With more than 25 years of IT leadership experience at J.D. Irving, Limited and UPEI Dana has a strong reputation as a strategic leader and “bridge-builder” between business needs and technology solutions. He actively represented the interests of UPEI as well as the Atlantic region through his board and member contributions to NBPEIECN, NREN, DRAC, and CUCCIO. His contributions to the Canadian higher education IT community were recognized with the 2023 CUCCIO Community Award, and he was a finalist for the 2019 ITAC Canadian CIO of the Year Award.

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